I think that's a really easy place to go because it seems like a lot of people buy into it. I know that I, as someone who has gained a hell of a lot more then ten pounds in the past 5 years, still get that feeling. It's a little hard not to think 'wow, she's so skinny, if she wants to lose weight, what does she think about me?' I know this is an irrational thought, but I certainly do have to work at remembering that.
I think that a lot of people might actually believe you're passing judgment, but I honestly think that's about their issues. I've noticed that about a lot of personal goal type things. Like, when I went back to school and started obsessing about my grades, a lot of people seemed kind of offended - like I was passing judgment on them. That was sooooooooo not the case.
But it's easy to go there, especially if it's something you're insecure about.
By Loreleilee, at 5:19 PM, May 31, 2007
I definitely worry about people thinking that. The truth is, it's easy for me to have a "come as you are" relationship with the world, but much harder for me to establish that relationship with myself.
The grades thing is another good example. Thanks for understanding! :)
By Kat, at 5:37 PM, May 31, 2007
I worry the same thing, that when I tell a friend who weighs more or is a different body type than me that i want to lose some weight, they figure I must think they're a WHALE or something. Which I dont' even think about!! I'm too obsessed with my own silly weight loss goals to worry about someone else's weight, (unless their weight causes me concern over their health).
You and I have the same starting weight. My ending goal is 140 though. I haven't been 135 in years and didn't have as much muscle then.
Being as tall as you are, do you ever obsess that you'll become some kind of big lumbering moose? I guess that's how I picture myself becoming... towering over other women (and some men), staggaring in to rooms with blubber jiggling, people secretly praying I won't accidentally sit on them... It's a pretty silly nightmare, but it's always been my private fear. My short friends tell me I'm lucky to be tall so that the weight doesn't show as easily. But I always think "at least short, chunky women still look feminine, if i gained weight i'd look like a buffalo."
By lazylightning, at 7:33 PM, May 31, 2007
Hahaha, it's so interesting to hear you tall women talk about yourselves. I know that over the years, I've felt like people take me less seriously because I'm so short, I've felt like they think I'm way younger then I am, *I've* felt younger then I really am.
But I honestly love being short. I'm not sure I would trade it, given the chance.
By Loreleilee, at 6:16 AM, June 01, 2007
Ack ack ack. I hate whatever sources have influenced us women to a.) over-obsess about our bodies and b.) compare ourselves constantly to different people. It drives me crazaaay!
I remember a time of a few months during early marathon training last year when I felt good about myself. I finally thought I grew out of the comparative stage, but no, it has returned. Bummer.
We all (myself included) have to accept the fact that "the grass could always be greener" and instead accept the hotness that we gots! I could curse my out-of-proportion giant chest and my short height and say "poor me, I do and I will weigh the same as my tall friends and never look as thin as they do". Or I could knock it the hell off with the comparing and just be happy with myself.
Why is that so hard for us to do? I'm so fed up with comparisons, I could scream.
By Rachel, at 8:19 AM, June 01, 2007
P.S. Lols, "More Oprah!"
P.P.S. I didn't eat extraneous sugar or any beer with dinner last night. :( At the end of the day, when I usually get despairingly tired, I felt better not having consumed in excess. There are positive health benefits in eating well, not just deprivation.
By Rachel, at 8:24 AM, June 01, 2007
i remember seeing a snippet of, what a coincidence, oprah!, several months ago and some diet guru lady was talking about food deprivation and said something like "don't deprive yourself. if you get hit by a semi on the way home you don't want your final thought to be 'i should have had taht damn donut.' " =-) your snack comment / revision made me think of this. for me, it seems much easier to cut out sweets / treats 95% of the time or whatever and then know i can indulge deliciously 5% of the time than to try to go all or nothing, because then i cheat.
By , at 5:31 PM, June 02, 2007
Hmm. Reminds me of Tuesday morning, trying on pair after pair of dress pants and skirt after skirt after skirt, eventually resorting to wearing the biggest skirt I own because the rest? Well most fit OK.. but not OK enough to walk out in to PUBLIC in, let alone go do anything important! Good luck to you. I've a similar resolution to keep!
By LazyLightning, at 7:40 PM, May 30, 2007
I always thought the "partner system" for goal-setting was super dorky. But hey, I'm willing to give it a try if you are. Maybe Rachel will go in with us too. ;) Let's keep our asses accountable!
TEEHEE
*jumps up and down like an oprah-watching stay-at-home-mom who just found a diet buddy*
By Kat, at 8:29 PM, May 30, 2007
I'm in. Because I could have written this post. My body feels awful. Too busy, no exercise yesterday, today, or tomorrow. My workout plan is waiting in my email inbox. My pants don't fit.
I have become that person whose habits I loathe. This is going to be an awkward trip out. Imma need all the support I can get.
I was gonna slack it off for dinner tonight, but I did have the thought to say: "no, good food starts right now, in the present". So I made a nice healthy pasta, sauce, and a salad.
Ugh, I don't want to be commenting on how much food I ate and how my pants don't fit. I feel like a lamer. But that's the reality of it.
By Rachel, at 11:09 PM, May 30, 2007
Experts actually say snacking is good. Just make it healthy and reduce the next meal by a similar amount of calories.
By running42k, at 4:25 AM, May 31, 2007
i'm feeling exactly the same. pants that fit a year ago, well... and yet i'm not huge now. just bigger than i was then and i'm not liking it. i'm in!
By zerodoll, at 5:58 AM, May 31, 2007
We can DO IT!!
Honestly my big problem is snacking on bad foods. Ice cream, candies, chips, etc. Yesterday I did well by putting down a candy after thinking "this will make me happy for about 10 minutes... but how will I feel later? or tomorrow?" That actually worked and caused me to assess my needs and eat something better (a fat free yogurt).
By lazylightning, at 7:09 AM, May 31, 2007
zerodoll- hi, and hurrah!
running42k- I definitely agree with this. I'm slightly hypoglycemic so I have to snack between meals or I risk becoming a non-functional mess. I just have a tendency to snack constantly because I'm orally fixated and I need something to do with my mouth. (LOL) This is bad, bad, bad at my work where there's always free (and generally unhealthy) snacks sitting around. So I got some carrot sticks, yogurt, and bananas and I will put these within arm's reach. Word.
By , at 7:59 AM, May 31, 2007
Buy some nice trail mix too. Great snack food and mixed with yogurt, very good.
By running42k, at 10:59 AM, May 31, 2007
Kat you are putting voice to the very same thoughts that have been lurking in my head since I've realized how much weight I've gained since surgery. Looking at the pictures from the BBQ the other night was FRIGHTENING. Someting must.change.now. I'm all for excercise/diet buddies and being all lame and fat-feeling together. Ok, I think I'm going to go watch Oprah.
By , at 3:54 PM, May 31, 2007
Hey you know what would be easier than this weight loss stuff? Just start wearing REALLY, REALLY BIG SWEATERS like you did in that pic you linked to. (I was the same way in H.S.) Because if you're wearing a 2XL sweater, no one can see your muffin top right?
By lazylightning, at 7:25 PM, May 31, 2007
You tried to lose weight WHILE eating thin mints? The public is not as dumb as your english professor.
By memphsphil, at 3:00 AM, June 03, 2007
Huh? I did no such thing-- the point I was trying to make was that I've got some of those cookies in my freezer and they're a tempting snack. I haven't actually been noshing on them, but I suppose I didn't make that clear. I'm more or less just resenting their existence.
By Kat, at 11:14 AM, June 03, 2007
I WANT A SWIMMING HOLE DAMMIT.
By Kat, at 7:07 PM, May 29, 2007


Wow...now that's some hardcore camping!
By Allie, at 1:58 PM, May 29, 2007
This rules.
By lazylightning, at 7:19 PM, May 29, 2007
Make pancakes fastaaaar!
By Rachel, at 10:22 PM, May 29, 2007





That camp ground looks splendid.
By running42k, at 4:24 AM, May 29, 2007
sounds like a lovely weekend. I'm craving a nice camping trip myself.
By Allie, at 2:02 PM, May 29, 2007
Heart heart & woop woop.
By Rachel, at 10:24 PM, May 29, 2007




Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaow!h
By Rachel, at 7:56 AM, May 25, 2007
Where did you get Dupert-Doo? Matty and I want to get a kitty- any recommendations for how to look for one?
By Titania, at 7:53 PM, May 26, 2007
We got Rupert at PetCo or PetSmart in Eugene-- they did a program with the Florence Humane society where they'd have cats from the shelter come out for a day and see who got adopted. We found him when we were checking to see if another cat we liked had come back.
Greenhill Humane Society in Eugene is also a lovely place to find a pet. I'm sure you have similar facilities in Portland. Definitely go for the shelters before the pet shops, but I'm sure you know that. :)
By Kat, at 5:50 PM, May 27, 2007
Do you watch Grey's Anatomy? I like how it's in Seattle. I envy the pacific northwest life. And I really liked the post a few posts back by Justin about cooking, it made me really hungry.
By , at 11:19 AM, May 24, 2007
I will call you athletic once I see you run 50 miles in under 3 hours. Kthxbye.
By LazyLightning, at 6:21 AM, May 23, 2007
Why are you putting so much information on the Internet?!?! Someone could stalk you, seriously; I found a screenshot of your facebook account of GOOGLE, & it linked me to here. That is REALLY unsafe. You should be more careful.
By , at 10:29 AM, May 28, 2007
LOL. ^_^
By Kat, at 11:12 PM, May 28, 2007
...an intensive, outdoor fitness class series, taught by Sgt. Mike Lawson. The 90-minute sessions are designed to give recruits a taste of real military basic training.
As a guy that has run 14 marathons, I know how much they can take out of you. You and your man have run two, so you should be happy with the accomplishment and think about other distances. How about a tri? Half marathons are what I am concentrating on as the distance is still challenging yet doesn't drain you as a marathon does.
As for exercise, do what you love. Do you love running? then do it. Do you have trails nearby that are easier on your joints?
By running42k, at 4:39 AM, May 22, 2007
For some reason I couldn't comment last night. Comments were closed? Well anyway, my comments are on my blog, as you inspired me as well.
Who says you have to have a visible spare tire, or shop in plus size stores, in order to be allowed to want to lose weight? Do what makes you happy. You're already a hot babe... but if you wanna be even hotter, go for it!
By LazyLightning, at 6:13 AM, May 22, 2007
Athletic people can finish a marathon in under five hours.
By , at 10:16 AM, May 22, 2007
I'm sure that a very good portion, if not half, of the marathon finishers in any major event would take offense to that statement.
I'm sure even you know if you really believe that you're completely jaded. But I realize that you're probably trying to be provocative. *yawn* How typical.
By Kat, at 10:58 AM, May 22, 2007
anon, (if that *is* your real name)-- I'd guess that depends on your definition of athleticism. Perhaps someone who is a veteran marathon runner, and who dedicates their life to it, or someone who is simply a gifted runner could finish a marathon in under 5 hours. Are these the only people who are considered to be athletes? I personally have never run a marathon, but having followed friends' progress, I know that marathon training requires a great deal of dedication (and I believe a bit of insanity). Through the trials of knee pain, toenails falling off (eew!), ungodly chafing and who knows what else, Kat, Justin and millions of other men and women have devoted themselves to completing this fitness goal. And you come here and tell Kat that by not finishing the marathon in under 5 hours, she is not athletic?
I beg to differ.
I don't consider myself to be athletic. While I am active, I"m not devoted enough to fitness to be considered an athlete (also, I'm not particularly good at any sports). I certainly could not go out tomorrow and run a marathon. Or half of one. Or a quarter of one. I am sure that a lot of athletes out there are with me. They are not runners. Perhaps they are bikers. Or swimmers. Or snowboarders. Who knows. I greatly respect those who have completed a marathon (or multiples, like Kat!), regardless of whether they finished it in 3 hours, 5, or 10. Running a marathon is not about how much weight you can lift or how many hours you put in on the elliptical. It's about perseverance, endurance, and strength, both inner and outer.
What I'd like to know, anon, is whether you've ever run a marathon. And of course the burning question is: what was your time?
By LazyLightning, at 11:26 AM, May 22, 2007
5 hours? C'mon, if you're going to be elitist why not set the cut off a little more aggressively. Personally I like to be personally judgmental towards anyone who doesn't finish in less than 4. With no soreness the next day. Myself included.
I've met athletic people. They run 30 miles as a warm-up. The rest of us are just "in good shape".
Here's the kicker though...if you're an asshole at the start of the marathon...you're still one at the end, regardless of your time.
By Justin, at 11:37 AM, May 22, 2007
p.s. Also, real athletes finish in the top 50% of their division or gender.
By Justin, at 11:46 AM, May 22, 2007
Seriously, Justin. Pish-posh. WHAT was I thinking? I guess it's ridiculous to even try!
By Kat, at 11:49 AM, May 22, 2007
I think you also are required to run a marathon at least 3 times a week to keep your Athlete status.
By LazyLightning, at 11:53 AM, May 22, 2007
"And you come here and tell Kat that by not finishing the marathon in under 5 hours, she is not athletic?"
Yep, that's what I'm saying. You're very astute!
You don't have to be a "veteran marathon runner" or even a "gifted runner" to be able to finish a marathon in under 5 hours. Athletic people can run a marathon while maintaining better than an 11-minute mile pace.
And yes, my mother named me Anonymous when I was born. Thanks for asking.
By , at 12:29 PM, May 22, 2007
You still didn't answer my question though... what was your time when you ran your last marathon?
By LazyLightning, at 1:29 PM, May 22, 2007
Hay I want some attention now! Check this out:
Everyone who hasn't bought a house yet is an irresponsible idiot with money. No matter what. Learn how to save money. So there.
It's easier than I thought to insult people. You know, I should troll blogs for fun and make comments that I know will piss them off. It's not like I have a job or anything to spend my time with. Yes, this will be my new pastime.
By Rachel, at 1:35 PM, May 22, 2007
Now hold on everyone. I'm sure anonymous is citing a very reliable, authoritative source in his/her argument. Amirite?
By , at 1:46 PM, May 22, 2007
Hey yah, let's see that source.
By lazylightning, at 2:20 PM, May 22, 2007
Yes, I've run marathons, and yes, they're faster than 5 hours. I don't feel the need to brag about my accomplishments, so my times are irrelevant.
You're missing the point. I'm arguing that you're not athletic, not that you're not in shape or you're not active. You can be in good shape while at the same time not be good at catching a ball, playing sports or running fast. You seem to like being active, and that's fine. But being "athletic" doesn't equate to riding a bike around, jogging a marathon, and taking a class with "sorority girls" at some gym.
I'm not claiming to be factual in my assertion. I'm just stating my lowly, anonymous opinion. I don't need authoritative sources to have an opinion, do I?
By , at 2:24 PM, May 22, 2007
As long as you realize that it's an opinion, not a fact. There is no definition of athletics that corresponds to skill level. If one were to add "professional" to the word athlete one might be able to attribute some sort of minimum qualifier. However, your *personal opinion* of the qualifiers for athleticism are in no way any more valid than
Charles Gariepy's, the pope's or Genghis Kahn's. Check a dictionary, encyclopedia, whatever you like. But save your schpiel for the pulpit, champ.By Kat, at 2:48 PM, May 22, 2007
hmm, smart of you to disable comments on a potentially assvice-inspiring post. ;-)
nonetheless, i thought i'd weigh (no pun intended) in. i've found that dieting is key, if your workout already is in killer shape / getting back there. *shrug*.
By , at 6:28 PM, May 21, 2007
Deeeedle duuupert!
I just gotta say "here here" to your previous post. I've told you this already, but I completely identify with this paragraph:
"I'm gonna gripe for a moment to get it out of my system: Marathon training has destroyed both my left knee and my go-to-the-gym-in-the-morning routine. I'm exhausted when I wake up and I can't get my ass out of the bed. At the end of the day all I want to do is relax. I used to do weight training M-W-F from 7:30 to 8:30 and run on U-H-Su, but that routine's been quashed for a little while. Running anything over two miles is out for the time being..."
Also here here to the "don't worry, you're just gaining muscle" notion. Yeah, I have had muscle my whole life and it never gathered around my stomach before. Huh.
I so wish that you were here so that we could help each other get some quality MMA (move my ass) time in together. I forgot my sports bra today (super irritating) and did some yoga by myself and it was... not the same. :(
Here's to getting in shape and being healthy!
By Rachel, at 6:32 PM, May 21, 2007
Whoops, I dunno how comments were disable above. I adjusted the timestamp on the post, so it must have been when I did that.
Yeah, I agree that diet is imperative. That's why I did the spring cleanse a while back, and I'm cutting out sweets and beer in large part and trying to eat smaller portions with more greens. I already eat quite healthily, and because I get ow blood sugar it's hard for me to really restrict calories. But cutting out the extras and sticking to water really helps!
By Kat, at 8:25 PM, May 21, 2007
Rachel-- I miss when we were workout buddies too!! :( No sports bras for you to borrow from my locker! ;)
By Kat, at 8:26 PM, May 21, 2007
nyam nyam nyam
I LOVE IT!
By lazylightning, at 6:16 AM, May 22, 2007
gyaa! Fluffer nutter! More gratuitous shots plz! XD
By Shanna, at 11:03 AM, May 22, 2007
Does the scallop sit spice-up or spice-down on the bacon?
By inkandpen, at 6:12 PM, May 19, 2007
The spiced side of the bacon faces the scallops, so the outside that you end up holding is just bacon and toothpick...the spices are safely nested against the scallop.
By Justin, at 10:03 PM, May 19, 2007
Come to michigan and make them for me, please!
...on second thought, I want to come out there and have them at one of THOSE parties. :o)
By sometrouble, at 8:10 PM, May 21, 2007
Peeling shrimp builds character. Swabbie is still sharing the story with friends and relatives. ("OMG! Raw shrimp is so gross!")
Your catering, as always, kicked ass! Please to send the spicy sausage ragu recipe.:)
By , at 6:39 PM, May 28, 2007
What's going on that made your day so bad?
Hope tomorrow brings a fresh start and is much better.
xoxo
By Allie, at 10:32 PM, May 15, 2007
whats up kat?
By espresso...yum, at 10:57 PM, May 15, 2007
Well, it's one part work just completely owning my day and leaving no time for my SELF (something I absolutely loathe) and one part general exhaustion topped off with a nasty little garnish of personal problems.
Like I said, it could be much worse-- my friend Kyle's dad is in a coma so I'm taking everything with a grain of salt. I still feel shitty though.
By Kat, at 12:24 AM, May 16, 2007
Hope today goes better.
By running42k, at 4:31 AM, May 16, 2007

kat - i ran into this situation recently in the south lake union area and basically grabbed the persons arm (in a non-threatening manner) and told them that due to construction and the fact that I personally felt it was an unsafe condition the city had placed this individual in at that time - I asked if they wouldn't mind if I helped them through a potentially dangerous intersection. The person responded in a 100% positive manner. Don't hesitate to help. These citizens appreciate it and will tell you when and if they do not want/need your assistance.
By espresso...yum, at 11:03 PM, May 15, 2007
"But I know if it were me in his place I'd like a helping hand more than I'd like to be fumbling around at an intersection in the dark."
Um, I don't think it really matters to him that it's dark...he's blind.
By , at 1:41 PM, May 17, 2007
That it was dark might not matter to him but it certainly matters in the context of the situation. You might also want to take into account that he could have been *partially* sighted and therefore at a significant disadvantage because it was night.
Don't be a smartass, it goes poorly with internet anonymity.
By Kat, at 1:48 PM, May 17, 2007
"Um, I don't think it really matters to him that it's dark...he's blind."
I would imagine that if you cannot see, then your whole world is some kind of "darkness". (Or lightness, truth is, I don't know what blind people experience, but I would think of it as being quite dark.) That, I believe, is what she meant by that statement. It's called com-pre-hen-sion. Big word, I know, but still an important one.
By lazylightning, at 2:02 PM, May 17, 2007
lazylightning,
Sorry love. It may be convenient to assume I'm an idiot an completely unable to appreciate the deep, symbolic meaning behind "darkness." Alas, I'll try to clarify the author's intent for you by citing a passage a bit earlier in the post:
"It was dark (10:40pm) on poorly lit street with a crosswalk completely torn up by construction."
I'm quite certain that by darkness she actually meant the absence of light (literal light, not the blinding rays of your immortal soul filling the world with joy).
Cheers!
By , at 2:52 PM, May 17, 2007

Yay! Sounds like a beautiful place and time for a wedding.
By sometrouble, at 11:05 AM, May 14, 2007
YAY!

a dooce-worthy anecdote! nice!
hmmm, there's gotta be a way you can set up a justin-proof site to post pix of wedding dresses you're considering. or at least post pix of the ones you RULE OUT so at least we can get an idea? weddings are sooooo fun! you are tall and slender, definitely the best for formal-wear, also with the kind of bust apparently that formal wear most flatters. you're going to be a model-worthy bride!! especially since you seem to have good taste; i doubt you'll end up looking like a cake-topper or stripper. the onlyl thing that would make it better is dark brown hair. ah, how pretty that looks off-setting all the pale.
By , at 2:56 PM, May 12, 2007
Lols it must be anon commenters season. Uneducated anon commenters season more specifically, as you didn't in fact write anything that would dooce you. Lolslolslols...
Too bad about your fishes! But you're doing it all wrong. You know, I know everything about fish and fish tanks. You can't pretend you are a fishes' mother, for serious. How dare you say that they will be cannibals themselves one day? Have you had enough of my train of thought yet?
-Rachel
By , at 10:28 AM, May 13, 2007
Odayum, I blew my anonymous cover! Maybe someday I'll have the cahones to communicate my honest thoughts to you. ;)
By Rachel, at 10:30 AM, May 13, 2007
as in worthy of dooce's writiing talents! duh! that old definition is so passe.
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By , at 5:46 PM, May 13, 2007
Please post photos of your wedding dresses on another blog that Justin won't find, but so that we anons can find it... you'll have to link to it here... but wait... hmm. Wrote myself in to a corner there.
Oh but WAIT, I saw some of the dresses already, so I guess I don't really care at all whether you blog them up. Here's hoping your fish don't eat each other and get you fired for blogging about them. Or something. The actual definition of words is so passe! Let's make up new ones that no one gets!
Oh, by the way,
“A single death is a tragedy,” Joseph Stalin said. “A million deaths is a statistic.”
By LazyLightning, at 7:14 AM, May 14, 2007
P.S.
Purple monkey dishwasher.
By LazyLightning, at 7:15 AM, May 14, 2007
whoa! LL found out i'm really beyonce's little sister! (knowles, baby). she's the smartest person EVAR. ;-)
By , at 7:54 PM, May 14, 2007
plus extra points for pointing out my nonsensical linkage idea was, well, nonsensical!
By , at 8:18 PM, May 14, 2007







That is one sexy hat. I hope you got got to keep it.





( Kat sez: Oo! Oo! These are the ones *I* like! )
Kat's favourites:











I've never even heard of this place. I need some more T-shirts so this is great! $15 isn't bad either!
By Kyle, at 9:42 PM, May 07, 2007
Kat:
http://www.nataliedee.com/gallery-butt.php

We're back home and hobbling around like fools after a weekend of grand (and not-so-grand) adventures. It was great to be back in Eugene; being there again made me realize just how much I miss it and how easy it is for me to be myself in that city. I tried not to think about leaving too much, but I still broke down for half an hour as soon as we hit the freeway. That made for a fun drive, lemme tell you. 


Hay those are my legs! I'm floating! Weeeee!
Does it make you feel better that I got all choked up after saying goodbye to you guys on campus? I miss my friends being in Eugene. :(
I too would like to kiss marathoning goodbye for now. For at least one year. And it is so awesome to be able to say: "oh yeah, I could run a half, no problem". I never thought I would ever say anything like that!
Haha my word verification for this post is "ugggg". How appropo!
By Rachel, at 2:39 PM, May 01, 2007
This is awesome you guys. I'd love to be a part of this. I wonder if they offer say... a 1k race? Maybe a 1/2k walk? I could TOTALLY bust that out.
;-)
By LL, at 7:46 AM, May 03, 2007